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We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. I just finished Eden of the East just the 11 episode series, not the movies since I saw this headline and felt like it would be a series right up my alley, and while it started off extremely promisingly, tightly plotted and intelligently written, it ended quite disappointingly. The series was not half as smart or complex as it thought it was, its view of societal conflicts and resolutions were immature, and due to possible time and money constraints they obviously stopped trying to "show" the story and just crammed as much exposition as they could in the end.
In short, this series isn't for me not because any of the points you mentioned in your posts, but because this show wasn't nearly as deep as it tried to be, or could have been.
I think the more pertinent question with number 5 is whether the presence of such symbolism detracts from the series itself, and I don't think it does. Eden of the East is just as enjoyable if you don't understand some of the symbolism that's included in there, though you just miss out on a facet of understanding for the series. I think you hit 6 right on the head there, and I was expecting that one to pop up here :P Nice series of posts. Final post from a great trilogy that really should be read by those who have watched Eden and didn't enjoy it or just didn't "get" it.
It certainly has given me second thoughts about the series and how I should approach it when I eventually rewatch it.
Thanks for writing such great commentary. Thank you, as well, chaostangent for an interesting series of posts. Upon seeing your first post, I had originally thought of commenting to the effect of disagreeing with your arguments.
I'm glad I didn't as I doubt my exceedingly rusty debating abilities would have been on par with the discourse found in the comments; as you noted some are quite well thought out and written.
I am also glad of staying my hand previously as I cannot help but find now that your arguments over the course of this series, admittedly aside from your first, final points, and a couple of turns of phrase, could instead be construed as glowing praise for the series.
Aside from this small point, I thank you again for an engaging, fresh look at a series which I thoroughly enjoyed when it was airing.
Though I dare say I shall now have to revisit it in Blu-ray form to taste once more. Oh and, a bit late I know, but its good to have you 'blogging once more. Thanks for writing. It's kind of sad when you finished with segment 2 I could have guessed this post just by extrapolating what you haven't said but should.
Still, I agree with most of your points and Kamiyama himself asked this question during his stay in America summer this year: what do you see in Eden of the East? Why do you like it? To his western audience. And I think that's the question you should ask!
Many thanks for everyone who has commented on these three Eden of the East posts. The level and quality of the responses and discourse has been well beyond anything I could have expected. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to respond with your thoughts and hope that this series of posts has at least been worth your time. The Selecao were never fully explored. The emotional highs that a series about changing the world were never hit. And the ending took the political commentary into childishly naive posturing.
Everyone might have well gone ahead and ate their damn cake. Taka - I don't think there are any deliberate biblical references in Eden of the East, and certainly not in its title; if anything, it's probably more in deference to the East of Eden movie given the show's frequent references to cinema in some shape or form.
As for Saki, she's simply a representation of a break-away from the cynicism which pervades society - she was effectively the only one who believed in Takisawa throughout, and the only one who believed that he could make a difference and change Japan when everyone else rolled their eyes and dismissed him as an idiot, an idealist and so on. As well the biblical leanings there's also the Sun motif on top of the Mall rising sun etc.
Honestly I didn't really catch any of the metaphors first time around so maybe it's over-reading or just added extras? I don't dislike the series at all, and my penchant for Eden of the East is the reason for my research into it; however it's not without its contentious aspects and the groundswell of opinion that accompanied its initial airing is as I've relayed. I don't follow the critical reception of home video releases but if it has been received well then all the better, just as if they enjoyed it more than GITS:SAC that is brilliant as well.
Star Driver and Panty and Stocking would be examples for this season. As far as your notes on GITS:SAC are concerned, I have nothing but reverence for the series and find it mildly insulting that you would denigrate the reasons for me or anybody watching it. I'd be fascinated to hear how. Many thanks for reading and I hope this answers at least some of the issues you had with the post.
Frankly, I don't get this article at all. I can't help but think that a the writer's dislike of the series is biased by his mistaken perception of EotE's reception or that b this totally untrue information about EotE's reception is just a biased byproduct of the writers dislike for the series. Regardless, the information about its reception is very wrong.
Making me even more bewildered is what you wrote about politics It's like you're writing this from some shounenite point of view who watches GitS SAC for "teh acshun. Of course the later is going to "unify" the anime masses. Interesting post about the political side of it. I didn't really acknowledge the political bit until the last movie.
I don't know enough about Japanese politics to really enjoy and understand it either. Namely, the more biblical metaphors like calling the show "Eden of the East". Was there some kind of biblical allegory? Are the old politicians "God" and all the selecao Adam, cast out of the garden?
I was hoping for some illumination along those lines. Also, Saki; why is she in the story at all? What purpose does she really serve? In the original ED credits it was heavily implied that she was the "Eve" to Takizawa's Adam but to me they never seemed to go anywhere with the symbolism.
Also how the hell did that chick fly. I can certainly see why it didn't live up to its perceived billing from some quarters, but I can't fault it for what it did set out to do, and I dare say it succeeded for the most part aside from the tepid first movie.
I've yet to get to the movies, but I think I enjoyed the series so much because of your second point. And after reading the post, I'm now more likely to get to watching the movies sooner rather than later. While the GiTS connection was there, I wasn't expecting it to be the same, though now that you point it out I guess I can see why others would put those expectations upon Eden of the East. I guess I was the target audience, heh. Your name. Your email address Your address will never be shared.
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